I see Is RAV4 SE higher trim than RAV4 XLE? as on topic question.
The OP was asking about trim levels. Certainly they seem to be engaged in shopping BUT the question was very specific about trim levels offered by the manufacturer.
I read a lot of articles online, but still don't understand. Is RAV4 SE higher trim than RAV4 XLE ? I asked two different dealers and got two different answers .
I understand SE is the sport version .
So which one is higher level?
I do not see anything in the question that even eludes to shopping advice, I do see an OP asking about trim levels. This seems very clear cut to me AND that this question should not have been closed.
This, as well, seems clear cut to me. It's of a historical nature about a component of a vehicle, a trim level if you will. It does align with the RAV4 question is of the same vein.
This topic was sparked by this posting: Is RAV4 SE higher trim than RAV4 XLE?
It's been suggested that
This question does not appear to be about motor vehicle maintenance or repair within the scope defined in the help center.
@Ben has carefully pointed out that another question, this one about Ferrari wheels, is essentially the same type of question, yet nobody suggested it be closed. The Ferrari question actually received a lot of votes.
@Ben is absolutely right. Personally, I don't care what the rules are, just that they are consistent with the goals of the site at large, and clearly communicated to all. As it stands the "goals" of this forum are NOT clearly stated at all. It's vaguely mentioned here, at the "What topics can I ask about" page...
For some clarification here is link to the off-topic components that dovetail into the "What can I ask" link.
Am I looking at this right? What do you guys think?
I think you are looking at it correctly. The RAV4 and Ferrari questions are the same. RAV4 shouldn't have been closed.
Who 'owns' this site, us the users, or some mysterious owners somewhere?
We own the site. It's everybody's site. It's yours, it's mine. It's whomever has been here and all the people that will come.
Stack Exchange actually 'owns' the site but it is driven by the community, us.
When you take a step back what's the big picture goal here? (My thoughts it's to allow us all to help each other with information related to cars and trucks [and sometimes motorcycles] and keeping them running!)
Yes. Agree completely. Although, please don't minimize the motorcycles :-)
Here's some additional info about the site regs.
- Option content of vehicles.
My opinion, this is clearly on topic. The moment it becomes QA about what is better or cost then that changes the impetus of the question and it should be closed. Subjectivity can be your yardstick. When it's subjective it's off-topic.
- Recommendations on purchasing decisions related to automobiles.
Yes. Off-topic. Also include any cost into your thinking on whether it's appropriate or not for the site. Cost=bad.
- Historical content relating to vehicles.
Completely OK. On-topic.
- Making things look pretty (not related to repair or maintenance)
Yes. How do I wax my car? How do I take care of my leather seats? How do I fix my sun bleached dash board?
- Recommendations about specific suppliers of automotive parts or tools. (I had recently made a comment about the free multimeter give away program from a tool supplier that somebody took great offense to...)
I'll break this up a bit.
If it's shopping, not OK.
Tools - It's fine. There are lots of tool questions here. Seventy-seven at this point. Where to buy them, not ok. Which is better, Craftsman or Matco? Not ok. It's subjective.
I'd like to see what the multi-meter ruckus was about. I can't really speak to that. Without knowing anything I'll just say to you, "thanks for sharing with people where they can get a free multi-meter. That's pretty nice of you to take the time to do that."
I've been watching your answers. They are awesome. Thank you for contributing AND thanks for going to next level and contributing here in meta to look for clarification. I hope you continue to post here.
There is a chat, here is a link. It's a little insane but despite all of our shortcomings in there it's filled with some really good people.
We take pride in the culture within Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair as being a friendly and welcoming place. I'm sorry if you received vitriol regarding the multi-meter question. I hope they weren't rude. For me, I find some of the other sites within the Stack Exchange network broken. Not for the content but more for the attitude of aggression that may permeate them. If find NOT NICE behavior intolerable and do my best to live by the credo of 'BE NICE' which is the first entry in the help center under the 'Our Model' section. That being said, if someone is 'NOT NICE' to you, you can always comment back to them simply by pasting the BE NICE link to them as your comment.
Glad your here. Great contributions to the site!